My dog will also not be endorsing Trump, and that fact is just about as relevant to the 2024 election. Mike Pence had a moment in the limelight solely because of Trump, and he seems not to understand that.
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It’s not so much that his influence is in the negative column, but the fact that he really believes that he actually can influence the election that shows he’s totally unaware of his unimportance.
Well, truthfully, I wouldn’t be influenced by Pence’s endorsement (or lack thereof) … But having been his VP does give him a knowledge of Trump that most people don’t have. Unless Pence has suddenly become a petty, vindictive person, this actually means something. Did he say why he won’t endorse Trump?
I think Pence is just a country club Republican who does whatever is needed to appease the establishment. For the sake of honesty and integrity, he and Romney and a few others should change parties and call themselves what they really are. But if he were really honest and had any integrity, then he wouldn’t be doing what he is doing.
Don L, LQC, I agree completely. CAG, I think you nailed it with “petty, vindictive person.”
To me, possibly the most telling point about Pence’s character and intellect is the fact that he was raised Catholic and left the Church to become some brand of Protestant or other. That is a sign of laziness, willful blindness, and/or a stunted intellect, IMO. As soon as I learned that, back in 2016, I was worried that he wouldn’t be an asset to Trump. Turns out that was a solid assessment. It baffles me, having seen what’s transpired since then, that Trump ever picked Pence as VP, and I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that he was “recommended” to Trump by some of the same people who worked to undermine his entire administration from day one.
I assume Pence has a concatenation of reasons here. The trouble with Pence was manifest before he was VP, when he faced complaints from corporate types about some social conservative measures enacted by the Indiana legislature. He caved. Capons are not leaders and he is simply wrong for any elective executive position.
Pence was a quite satisfactory Governor of Indiana, once again validating the Peter Principle about those who rise above their level of competence.
I think Pence knows he’s not top-notch talent. He resigned himself to being a one-term governor, but then Trump picked him in order to shore up support with social conservatives. He should have stood up to Trump more, and can’t really get away with acting like he just discovered the guy is a jerk in late 2020, but he stood his ground admirably. It’s speculated that he only ran for president in order to tar Trump. But when I look at both people on the Democratic ticket, I can’t help but respect Pence as a lightweight who realizes it.
@Frank,
Mike Pence wrote an autobiography in which he explains his religious convictions:
https://www.amazon.com/So-Help-God-Mike-Pence/dp/1982190337
I have not read the book (and won’t bother), nor can I find on-line where there is any discussion of what kind of Protestant Evangelical he is:
I discount the mainstream denominations like Lutheran (both liberal Evangelical and conservative Missouri Synod), Anglican / Episcopal, and Presbyterian Church USA (too liberal for Pence, but nowadays who knows?). I also discount conservative Anglican break-away denominations like the Orthodox Anglican Church (OAC), the Anglican Province of America, the Anglican Church of North America, etc. Pence has no tolerance for anything liturgical or authentically conservative. I personally know the OAC Archbishop, and Pence could never abide the strictness of the doctrine which that primate teaches. That’s to the credit of the Archbishop. And Eastern Orthodoxy is out of the question. But the way Pence has acted, he’s more like an Episcopalian than my Pentecostal parents, may God rest their souls in peace.
Just another RINO pretending not to be a Democrat.
Says more about Pence than anything else really – a former VP NOT endorsing the POTUS he worked under..? Even a Obama is still endorsing a non-functional Biden.
In all fairness, his programmers might have messed up the programming when they hit reboot- the man looks like some sort of android. Not an ounce of human emotion, intellect or relatability.
Scott Atlas talks about Pence in his book “A Plague Upon Our House.” Pence headed up the Covid response for the Trump Administration. Atlas points out that he consistently provided up-to-date studies that refuted the Fauci/Birx response. Pence, who headed the meetings with Atlas and Fauci, did little to embrace the actual science even when directly approached by Atlas to correct the excesses that Fauci/Birx were promoting nationally. Pence refused to act even when Fauci/Birx went against the the recommendations of the committee.
Says enough right there.
“Pence has no tolerance for anything liturgical or authentically conservative. I personally know the OAC Archbishop, and Pence could never abide the strictness of the doctrine which that primate teaches.”
Lucius, what are you basing that on?
he sounds like Bishop or Cardinal material.
Phillip, totally agree with you on Pence’s weakness in dealing with Fauci and Birx and not supporting Dr. Atlas who had the solid evidence on the virus. If Pence had had backbone, life and lives during Covid-19 may have been very different in the US..
I remember reading on TAC that Pence left the Catholic church and joined a Protestant church of his wife. He always seemed to be gray in most areas except for being pro-life and a family man.